Faith vs. Reason

(Last Updated 1/16/2017)

“Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen” (KJV) or “faith is being sure of what we hope for, being convinced of what we do not see” (NLT).

“And as all have not faith, seek ye diligently and teach one another words of wisdom; yea, seek ye out of the best books words of wisdom; seek learning, even by study and also by faith.”

We are to gain wisdom and learning by study AND faith.  Faith does not trump study. You use both. God gave us a brain; therefore, he wanted us to use it.

Apostle Orson Pratt[1] (bold added):
"If we cannot convince you by reason nor by the word of God, that your religion is wrong, we will not persecute you, but will sustain you in the privileges guaranteed in the great Charter of American Liberty: we ask from you the same generosity—-protect us in the exercise of our religious rights—-convince us of our errors of doctrine, if we have any, by reason, by logical arguments, or by the word of God and we will be ever grateful for the information, and you will ever have the pleasing reflection that you have been instruments in the hands of God of redeeming your fellow beings from the darkness which you may see enveloping their minds. Come then let us reason together, and try to discover the true light upon all subjects, connected with our temporal or eternal happiness; and if we disagree, in our judgments, let us impute it to the weakness and imperfections of our fallen natures, and let us pity each other, and endeavor with patience and meekness to reclaim from error, and save the immortal soul from an endless death."
(Orson Pratt, "Celestial Marriage," The Seer 1, no. 1 (January 1853): 15-16)

Apostle George A. Smith:[2]
“If a faith will not bear to be investigated; if its preachers and professors are afraid to have it examined, their foundation must be very weak.”
(George A. Smith, 1873, Journal of Discourses 14:216)

The relationship between study and faith is given earlier in the D&C. We are to “study it out” and then apply faith by asking God “if it be right.”

(7) Behold, you [Oliver Cowdery] have not understood; you have supposed that I would give it unto you, when you took no thought save it was to ask me. (8) But, behold, I say unto you, that you must study it out in your mind; then you must ask me if it be right, and if it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; therefore, you shall feel that it is right.


Apostle Hugh B. Brown:[3]
"And while all members should respect, support, and heed the teachings of the authorities of the church, no one should accept a statement and base his or her testimony upon it, no matter who makes it, until he or she has, under mature examination, found it to be true and worthwhile; then one's logical deductions may be confirmed by the spirit of revelation to his or her spirit…"
(Hugh B. Brown, “A Final Testimony,” An Abundant Life: The Memoirs of Hugh B. Brown, 1988)

From 1938 to 2016:
The shift from using reason and faith to mostly faith (Testimony) within the LDS Church likely began in 1938 with Apostle J. Reuben Clark,[4] First Councilor to President Heber J. Grant. In his 1938 The Charted Course of the Church in Education,[5] he stated the two primary “doctrines” of the LDS Church are:

1. (A) Jesus Christ is the Son of God, was crucified, was resurrected, and ascended to the Father. (B) We all will be resurrected (see page 2).
2. (A) The Father and Son appeared to Joseph Smith, (B) Joseph Smith and others and visions, (C) the Priesthood was restored after the apostasy of the primitive Church, (D) the Lord restored the Church through Joseph Smith, (E) The Book of Mormon is true, (F) Joseph Smith had "numerous" revelations about the building and organization of the Church, and (G) Joseph Smith's successors are "called of God" and have received revelation or will receive revelation (see page 2).

Apostle J. Reuben Clark stated (bold added): 
"These [above] facts also, and each of them, together with all things necessarily implied therein or flowing therefrom, must stand, unchanged, unmodified, without dilution, excuse, apology, or avoidance; they may not be explained away or submerged. Without these two great beliefs the Church would cease to be the Church." (page 2)

"Church is to maintain, teach, encourage, and protect, temporally and spiritually, the membership as a group in its living of the gospel." (page 1)

“The problem primarily is to keep them [the youth of the Church; students] sound, not to convert them…Doubt must not be planted in their hearts.” (page 3)

Regarding teachers, J. Reuben Clark stated: 
"The first requisite of a teacher for teaching these principles is a personal testimony of their truth. No amount of learning, no amount of study, and no number of scholastic degrees can take the place of this testimony, which is the sine qua non [essential requirement] of the teacher in our Church school system." (pages 6 & 7)


This faith (Testimony) based education where CES students and LDS members are protected from doubt continued for about 78 years, until 2016. J. Reuben Clark’s ideology in the The Charted Course of the Church in Education was echoed by subsequent LDS Church leaders (see following quotes) and is contained in the 2004 LDS manual Teaching Seminary Preservice Readings Religion 370, 471, and 475.

Improvement Era[6] (bold added):
When our leaders speak, the thinking has been done. When they propose a plan- it is God's Plan. When they point the way, there is no other which is safe. When they give directions, it should mark the end of controversy, God works in no other way. To think otherwise, without immediate repentance, may cost one his faith, may destroy his testimony, and leave him a stranger to the kingdom of God."
("Ward Teaching", Improvement Era, June 1945, pg. 354)

Apostle Boyd K. Packer (Bold added):
“There is a temptation for the writer or the teacher of Church history to want to tell everything, whether it is worthy or faith promoting or not. Some things that are true are not very useful

We are teachers and should know the importance of the principle of prerequisite…The scriptures teach emphatically that we must give milk before meat. The Lord made it very clear that some things are to be taught selectively, and some things are to be given only to those who are worthy

That historian or scholar who delights in pointing out the weakness and frailties of present or past leaders destroys faith. A destroyer of faith—particularly one within the Church, and more particularly one who is employed specifically to build faith—places himself in great spiritual jeopardy. He is serving the wrong master, and unless he repents, he will not be among the faithful in the eternities.

One who chooses to follow the tenets of his profession, regardless of how they may injure the Church or destroy the faith of those not ready for “advanced history,” is himself in spiritual jeopardy. If that one is a member of the Church, he has broken his covenants and will be accountable. After all of the tomorrows of mortality have been finished, he will not stand where he might have stood…

Those of you who are employed by the Church have a special relationship to build faith, not destroy it

[The article also includes “qualifications to teach or to write the history of this church”: a testimony of God, Jesus Christ, the First Vision, Joseph Smith, the restored church, and the succession of church prophets as “prophets, seers, and revelators”.]

(Boyd K. Packer, “The Mantle is Far, Far Greater Than Intellect”,[7] CES Symposium on the Doctrine and Covenants and Church History, 1981)



Apostle Bruce R. McConkie:
“No true Latter-day Saint will ever take a stand that is in opposition to what the Lord has revealed to those who direct the affairs of his earthly kingdom. No Latter-day Saint who is true and faithful in all things will ever pursue a course, or espouse a cause, or publish an article or book that weakens or destroys faith.”
(Bruce R. McConkie, “The Caravan Moves On”, Conference Report, October 1984)

Apostle Dallin H. Oaks (bold added):
"Balance is telling both sides. This is not the mission of the official Church literature or avowedly anti-Mormon literature. Neither has any responsibility to present both sides. But when supposedly objective news media or periodicals run a feature or an article on the Church or its doctrines, it ought to be balanced. So should a book-length history or biography. Readers of supposedly objective authors and publishers have a right to expect balance in writing about the Church or its doctrines…

Evil speaking[8] of the Lord’s anointed is in a class by itself. It is one thing to depreciate a person who exercises corporate power or even government power. It is quite another thing to criticize or depreciate a person for the performance of an office to which he or she has been called of God. It does not matter that the criticism is true. As Elder George F. Richards, President of the Council of the Twelve, said in a conference address in April 1947, 'when we say anything bad about the leaders of the Church, whether true or false, we tend to impair their influence and their usefulness and are thus working against the Lord and his cause.' ... The Holy Ghost will not guide or confirm criticism of the Lord's anointed, or of Church leaders, local or general. This reality should be part of the spiritual evaluation that LDS readers and viewers apply to those things written about our history and those who made it.”
(Dallin H. Oaks, Reading Church History, Ninth Annual Church Educational System religious Educators' Symposium, August 16, 1985. Also see The Salt Lake Tribune, August 18, 1985, page 2B)

Apparently, Church history taught by the LDS Church has been faith-promoting and one-sided for a long time. A degree of one-sided rhetoric and writings is to be expected by Critics, the LDS Church, and LDS Apologists because all authors are biased by their perspective. The LDS Church admits suppression of “advanced history” and relies on testimony. Critics use “advanced history” and rely on reason.

The Internet:
With the rapid spread of the Internet starting in the mid 1990s, the information available on LDS Church history is ever growing. Members, who really didn’t have access to “advanced history,” found it, usually by accident, on the Internet:

Prominent LDS Apologist Michael Ash:
“Most Latter-day Saints, like most people in the world, are not professional historians. Prior to the digital age of the Internet and digital scans of early documents, even professional historians had a hard time finding some of the obscure details of the past. The average LDS member (like the average member of any community) is typically ignorant of historical oddities…”
(Michael Ash, “Healing When Trust is Broken with The Church”, mormonhub.com, 2015)
Apostle M. Russell Ballard:
“It was only a generation ago that our young people’s access to information about our history, doctrine, and practices was basically limited to materials printed by the Church. Few students came in contact with alternative interpretations. Mostly, our young people lived a sheltered life.

Our curriculum at that time, though well-meaning, did not prepare students for today—a day when students have instant access to virtually everything about the Church from every possible point of view. Today, what they see on their mobile devices is likely to be faith-challenging as much as faith-promoting.”
(M. Russell Ballard, "Opportunities and Responsibilities of CES Teachers in the 21st Century", Address to CES Religious Educators, February 26, 2016)

After finding “advanced history” (LDS Church history and doctrine issues) on the internet, many members of the LDS Church have left in droves. In a November 11, 2011, Q&A with a Mormon Studies student group, LDS Church General Authority Marlin K. Jensen[9] stated:

"We are aware [that members are "leaving in droves"]. And I'm speaking of the 15 men that are above me in the hierarchy of the church…

Maybe since [the 1837 church bank failure in] Kirtland, we've never had a period of - I'll call it apostasy, like we're having now."
(Peter Henderson and Kristina Cooke, "Special Report: Mormonism besieged by the modern age", Reuters.com, January, 31, 2012)

Apostle Quentin L. Cook:
“Many who are in a spiritual drought and lack commitment have not necessarily been involved in major sins or transgressions, but they have made unwise choices…Some have immersed themselves in internet materials that magnify, exaggerate, and in some cases invent shortcomings of early Church leaders. Then they draw incorrect conclusions that can affect testimony. Any who have made these choices can repent and be spiritually renewed.”
(Quentin L. Cook, "Can Ye Feel So Now?", 2012 October General Conference)

Starting in November 2013, the LDS Church began issuing the Gospel Topic Essays approved by First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. As of December 2016, 13 Essays have been released. They “provide accurate and transparent information on church history and doctrine within the framework of faith.”[10] However, the testimony-based strategy persisted:

Letter to General Authorities, Stake Presidents, and Bishops (September 9, 2014):
Besides the content of the Essays, leaders should emphasize "prayer, regular study of the scriptures and the teachings of the living prophets, the exercise of faith, and humility are fundamental to receiving inspired answers to sincere questions."12

Apostle Neil L. Andersen
“We might remind the sincere inquirer that Internet information does not have a ‘truth’ filter.  Some information, no matter how convincing, is simply not true.”
(Neil L. Andersen, “Joseph Smith”, 2014 October General Conference)
Inoculation:
The LDS Church’s new strategy for “advanced history” is inoculation: teach members about “advanced history” within a “framework of faith.” Inoculation, according to LDS apologists, should strengthen member testimonies and enabling them to withstand critical interpretations.

Apostle M. Russell Ballard (bold added):
“For you to understand the doctrinal and historical content and context of the scriptures and our history, you will need to study from the “best books,” as the Lord directed. The “best books” include the scriptures, the teachings of modern prophets and apostles, and the best LDS scholarship available. Through your diligent efforts to learn by study and faith, you will be able to help your students learn the skills and attitudes necessary to distinguish between reliable information that will lift them up and the half-truths and incorrect interpretations of doctrine, history, and practices that will bring them down…

You know we give medical inoculations to our precious missionaries before sending them into the mission field so they will be protected against diseases that can harm or even kill them. In a similar fashion, please, before you send them into the world, inoculate your students by providing faithful, thoughtful, and accurate interpretation of gospel doctrine, the scriptures, our history, and those topics that are sometimes misunderstood.

To name a few such topics that are less known or controversial, I’m talking about polygamy, seer stones, different accounts of the First Vision, the process of translation of the Book of Mormon or the Book of Abraham, gender issues, race and the priesthood, or a Heavenly Mother.

The efforts to inoculate our young people will often fall to you CES teachers. With those thoughts in mind, find time to think about your opportunities and your responsibilities…

Church leaders today are fully conscious of the unlimited access to information, and we are making extraordinary efforts to provide accurate context and understanding of the teachings of the Restoration. A prime example of this effort is the 11 Gospel Topics essays on LDS.org that provide balanced and reliable interpretations of the facts for controversial and unfamiliar Church-related subjects.

It is important that you [CES Teachers] know the content in these essays like you know the back of your hand. If you have questions about them, then please ask someone who has studied them and understands them. In other words, “seek learning, even by study and also by faith” as you master the content of these essays.

You should also become familiar with the Joseph Smith Papers website and the Church history section on LDS.org and other resources by faithful LDS scholars.

The effort for gospel transparency and spiritual inoculation through a thoughtful study of doctrine and history, coupled with a burning testimony, is the best antidote we have to help students avoid and/or deal with questions, doubt, or faith crises they may face in this information age.”
(M. Russell Ballard, "Opportunities and Responsibilities of CES Teachers in the 21st Century", Address to CES Religious Educators, February 26, 2016)


As I’ve shown, those who were raised before “inoculation” have left in droves. Why? LDS Apologist Kevin Barney stated, “people can absorb hard facts when presented in a context of faith. But they cannot absorb the feeling of being lied to.”[11] Another LDS Apologist Allen Wyatt stated, “Critics know it is not the information that make people leave, but the perception that the information was ‘hidden.’ It is the feelings of deception and betrayal that ultimately drive people out, not the discovery itself.”13

From personal experience, there is a degree of shock when first learning “advanced history” because the information in brand new and didn’t come from the LDS Church. For me, I was already exposed to some “advanced history” in the early 1990s and assured by the LDS Apologists that they were lies or half-truths. I believed them.

With the Essays, the LDS Church admits the truthfulness of previous “lies” by Critics. The LDS Church now publishes “advanced history” in the Essays and offers the faithful context in which to interpret them. Critics claim the LDS Church has been lying. Clearly, the LDS Church—not unknowing members like teachers, bishops, and stake presidents—has been withholding “advanced history” to protect members from doubt. Is this lying?

Apostle Marvin J. Ashton (bold added):
"A lie is any communication given to another with the intent to deceive… A lie can be effectively communicated without words ever being spoken. Sometimes a nod of the head or silence can deceive. Recommending a questionable business investment, making a false entry in a ledger, devious use of flattery, or failure to divulge all pertinent facts are a few other ways to communicate the lie."
(Marvin J. Ashton, “This Is No Harm”, April 1982 General Conference)

Gospel Principles (bold added):
“Complete honesty is necessary for our salvation…Honest people love truth and justice. They are honest in their words and actions. They do not lie, steal, or cheat.

Lying is intentionally deceiving others. Bearing false witness is one form of lying…There are many other forms of lying. When we speak untruths, we are guilty of lying. We can also intentionally deceive others by a gesture or a look, by silence, or by telling only part of the truth. Whenever we lead people in any way to believe something that is not true, we are not being honest.
("Chapter 31: Honesty", Gospel Principles, 2011)

The evidence shows the LDS Church lied by withholding “pertinent facts.” The withheld facts are pertinent because they affect or can adversely affect a person’s faith. Further, many have left the LDS Church because of the feelings of deception, betrayal, and being lied to after learning “advanced history.”

Question: what’s so advanced about “advanced history”? The “framework of faith” in the Essays are basically written to be understood by an average person. No special knowledge required. Are members spiritual neophytes? The real issue is what those “advanced history” facts mean.




[1] Orson Pratt (1843-1881) was an Apostle from 1835 to 1881. He briefly separated from the LDS Church over polygamy in 1842.
[2] George A. Smith (1868-1875) was an Apostle from 1839 to 1875 and Brigham Young’s First Councilor from 1868 to 1875.)
[3] Hugh B. Brown (1883-1975) was an Apostle from 1958 to 1975 and First Councilor to David O. McKay from 1963 to 1970.
[4] J. Reuben Clark would serve in the First Presidency of the next two LDS Church Presidents, George Albert Smith and David O. McKay, until his death in 1961.
[5] The Charted Course of the Church in Education (1938) was revised in 1994 and updated in 2004. It is contained in 2004 LDS manual Teaching Seminary Preservice Readings Religion 370, 471, and 475
[6] The Improvement Era was the LDS Church magazine from 1897 to 1970. It was replaced by the Ensign.
[8] “Evil speaking of the Lord’s anointed” also in Dallin H. Oaks, “Criticism”, Ensign, February 1987.
[9] Marlin K. Jensen served in the First Quorum of the Seventy from 1989 to October 2012. He was Church Historian and Recorder from 2005 to October 2012.
[10] Letter to General Authorities, Stake Presidents, and Bishops (September 9, 2014) as quoted by Peggy Stack, "Mormon Leaders Spread Word About Controversial Essays", Salt Lake City Tribune, September 23, 2014.
[11] Michael Ash, Shaken Faith Syndrome, 2013, pgs. 12-13.

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